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all right and good morning, everyone and my name

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is Alex Cook. And on behalf of the C.S.I.R.O,

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I'd like to welcome you to this morning's Webcast to

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discuss the National Science Foundation's Global Centres program. Um

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so this webcast aims to be a high level discussion

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on this new programme and an overview of the opportunity

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for Australia based researchers to take part in global centers

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in partnership with the US, UK and Canada.

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So, as I said, my name is Alex

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Cook. I'm the general manager of the Missions Program

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Office in C.S.I.R.O and I'll introduce the rest of our

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speakers very shortly. But first I want to begin

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by acknowledging the traditional owners of the many lands that

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were meeting on today and pay my respects to elders

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past and present. I'm in Canberra and so I'd

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like to acknowledge that none of all people and it

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seems only fitting that we also acknowledge the extraordinary contribution

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the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have made to

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scientific knowledge and methods which have been transmitted from one

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generation to the next and which are informing solutions for

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a more sustainable future. We need to recognise respect

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and value indigenous knowledge systems. We're developing our shared

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vision for solving our nation's greatest challenges. And so

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I might ask our organiser to slip to the next

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slide, if that's possible. Excellent and and to

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the next one. So today is meant to be

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a two way exercise with an opportunity for you to

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ask questions. And now there are two ways to

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interact. Please use the chat function that's marked by

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a speech bubble on the right side of the screen

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for informal conversation and to report any technical issues.

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And please use the Q and A feature marked by

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a question mark on the right side of the screen

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to submit questions for the presenters. You may do

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this at any time of the presentations, and we'll

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coordinate and bring together some of the questions for the

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Q and A at the end. Please bare in

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mind that although we'll endeavour to answer your questions during

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today's webinar, time is limited. We have only

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an hour, and we may not get to them

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all. If you ask a question and we don't

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have time to answer it, please visit our website.

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Check the FAQs or email us at global

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applications at C.S.I.R.O dot au and we'll place the link

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to that email address in the chat. So I

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wanted to specifically welcome to colleagues that we have joining

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us from the National Science Foundation and so that's Paul

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Raterron and Karen Lips. Now Paul and Karen have

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been instrumental in establishing the Global Centres Program and working

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within the NSF and across the participating countries to establishing

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this new program. And speaking with me today,

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we have Ruth Pring strategy manager for the C.S.I.R.O missions

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program and joining us for the Q and A.

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We also have representatives from a number of the missions

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within Siro who are here to answer any questions relating

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to the mission topics and after the presentations will open

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the Webcast to you for questions. But first I

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just want to briefly hand over to Paul to introduce

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himself and Karen have it to you pull from relax.

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My name is Paul Raterron and Alex said I'm one

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of the program officer managing the Global Centers program at

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the National Science Foundation at the NSF, and I'm

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very happy to be here. Thank you for the

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invitation and I'm happy to help answering some of the

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question about the NSF and the global centre program during

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the Q and A and I'm here with Karen lips.

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My colleagues was going to introduce yourself now. Thank

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you. It's great to be here. We're very

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excited to be partnering with C.S.I.R.O and we look forward

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to hearing more from the presentation. Thank you,

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Paul. And thank you, Karen. Um so

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over the next few minutes, I'd like to provide

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an overview of the NSF, the Global Centres program.

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An outline of why CSIRO has joined this initiative,

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what we're hoping to achieve through our missions programme and

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why we're looking for partnerships across Australia's innovation system to

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help us respond to national and indeed international challenges.

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of the details of the actual programme called before going

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to Q and A. Now the National Science Foundation

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is an independent science agency, an independent federal agency

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that supports science and engineering in the US The NSF

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fulfils its goals chiefly by making grants in an NSF

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investments account for about 25% of federal support to America's

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colleges and universities for basic research research driven by curiosity

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and discovery. NSF also supports solutions oriented research with

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the potential to produce advancements for the American people.

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NSF's international partnerships support collaboration and complementary priorities between research

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communities in the US and other countries. Now the

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NSF Global Centers Program is an ambitious new initiative which

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is intended to fund international interdisciplinary collaborative research centres that

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will apply best practises of broadening participation and community engagement

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to develop use, inspired or applied research on climate

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change and clean energy, leading to foreseeable benefits to society.

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The global Center's programme is an NSF led effort implemented

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in partnership with like minded international funders to encourage and

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support large scale collaborative research on these use-inspired themes

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and the NSF partner countries in this inaugural Global Centers

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competition are Australia, Canada and the UK, Um and

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we're partnering through a number of the funding institutions within

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those jurisdictions. So in the UK, it's UK

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RI um in Canada. It's two of the funding

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agencies that are partnering from that jurisdiction. Now,

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the total value of the Global Centres programme is 70

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million US with up to Australian dollars $7 million available

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to Australian researcher institutions. The programme aims to prioritise

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research collaborations that foster team science uh, community engaged

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research and use knowledge to action frameworks. The proposed

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research work should maximise the benefits of international interdisciplinary collaborations

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and project outcomes should help the assessment and/or the

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mitigation of climate change, impacts on society, people

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and communities, and all the development of clean energy

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solutions and through the NSF global centres. Australian researchers

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will be able to join with partners in the US.

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and other countries to mitigate climate change impacts and

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develop clean energy solutions. Now there are two tracks

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to the call. The first track, called Global

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Centre Implementation is around. Proposals to advance use inspired

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research in climate change and our clean energy involving U.

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S. Team supported by the NSF working in collaboration

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with the foreign teams from Australia, Canada and the

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UK there is a second track called Community Driven Global

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Centre Design, but just to be clear, this

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is not funded by CSIRO um. It is intended

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to provide seed funding for US based researchers who are

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wishing to coordinate efforts to design a global centre for

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the next NSF global centres competition. Australian based researchers

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can be involved in that track, but there's no

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direct funding opportunity from the Australian side. So I

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wanted to start by stepping back to what the role

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of CSIRO is in this whole process and why were

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involved in the NSF call now as the science,

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a national science agency, C.S.I.R.O has an important role

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to play in connecting and strengthening the Australian innovation system,

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ensuring that we are equipped to meet our biggest challenges

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for the future. This means harnessing global networks and

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facilitating opportunities for collaborative research across industry, government and

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science organisations. CSIRO has a mandate to deliver benefit

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to Australian industry and society by tackling the scientific and

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technological challenges facing Australia. Many of these challenges that

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are facing Australia are also being seen on a global

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scale. Now global collaboration is critical in addressing the

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most pressing challenges that the world faces today. We're

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partnering with the NSF creates opportunities for collaboration and opportunity

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and innovation around these. As Australia's National Science Agency,

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CSIRO has a unique leadership role to address societal challenges

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on behalf of and working with the broader science,

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technology and innovation system. Our founding legislation outlines our

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responsibility for conducting scientific research for the benefit of the

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Australian community and to further national priorities. It also

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highlights our role as a means of liaison between Australia

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and other countries in matters connected with scientific research.

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And so in 2022 Sorrow and the US NSF signed

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a memorandum of understanding to establish multiple pathways for expanding

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and deepening research collaborations between the US and Australia.

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C.S.I.R.O has already supported activities across the Australian Innovation System

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by funding the Convergence Accelerator Initiative, which is focused

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around collaborations on sustainable materials as well as funding to

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support collaborations that have the potential to deliver transformative findings

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in the areas of responsible and equitable AI and we're

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now progressing collaborations between sorrow and the NSF to work

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on these global centres which we're here to talk about

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now. Now CSIRO is proud to be partnering with the

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NSF and research and innovation agencies in Canada and the

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UK to launch this programme, and we're one of

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the international co sponsors in the with with our partner

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countries. The programme demonstrates CSIRO's commitment to developing use,

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inspired research on climate change and energy, establishing research

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collaborations and partnerships across the national and global innovation ecosystem

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that support areas of national interests and priorities and national

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challenges, and aims to support projects that deliver on

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the objectives of missions in CSIRO's Missions programme. And

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so I wanted to go into what the CSIRO's missions

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programme is. It's intense and how it's relevant.

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So now the nature of the challenges that we face

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today can't be treated with single interventions and single science

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projects. So we're increasingly called on to develop solutions

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to challenges that are systemic, complex and urgent.

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Several years ago, CSIRO identified six challenges at the

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air as the areas of greatest importance to Australians,

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and we seek to solve these challenges through our portfolio

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of missions. Together, The challenges and missions are

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intended to support Australia's recovery and resilience and respond to

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the most pressing challenges that we face nationally and internationally.

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and integrated approaches, but tailored specifically to mobilise science,

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technology and innovation in order to address well defined to

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address well defined objectives related to a societal challenge in

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a defined time frame, each of our emissions have

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objectives that are ambitious but realistic and have broad societal

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relevance, and you'll hear a bit about a few

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of them shortly, Mission activity encourages collaboration across multiple

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scientific disciplines, including the social sciences as well as

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industrial sectors and engagement with multiple actors, including the

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public, private and civil society organisations. The slide

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you can see shows the missions that are currently in

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CSIRO's portfolio, and this includes those that have been

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launched and also those which are under scoping phase and

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under development for the global centres. Call. Four

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of our missions have identified thematic areas that will support

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the achievement of their ambitions. These are the ones

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highlighted in red on this slide, namely hydrogen industry

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Towards Net zero, Smart Energy and Renewable Energy Powerhouse.

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Now the solicitation document that's been released as part of

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the Global Centres Call includes details on each of these

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themes that have been identified by the missions. Broadly,

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they relate to six potential areas, so that's pathways

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To Net Zero net zero regional transitions, reducing methane

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emissions, integrated energy systems, intelligence, critical energy,

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minerals and energy storage and scaling clean hydrogen markets and

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applications that are involved involved in Australian Participant will need

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to align with one of the listed mission related themes

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and so what I want to do now is go

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through each of the missions, those four missions that

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I've mentioned and the themes that have been identified to

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give you a bit of a sense of what the

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areas of interest for those missions look like. And,

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as I mentioned, we've got the mission leads on

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the call here who will be able to answer questions

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during the Q and A session now The towards Net

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zero mission aims to partner with both regions and industries

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for a low emissions future by bringing together research,

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industry, government and communities. That aims to help

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Australia's hardest to abate sectors, which includes steel,

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aviation and agriculture. To have their emissions by 2035.

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Michael Battaglia is the mission lead for the towards net

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zero emission and his online, and we'll be happy

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to answer any questions. There are three topics that

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are of interest under the mission that are relevant to

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the global centres call. The first of these is

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the pathways to net zero call, where proposals are

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sought to directly address the challenge of lowering carbon emissions

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while building regional energy and resources security by directly identifying

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decarbonization, or emissions reduction options and pathways, along

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with their interaction with land use, economy and socio

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economic values. The second of these is Net zero

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regional transitions where proposals are sought that can help identify

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approaches and frameworks to identify opportunities and vulnerabilities of regions

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and precincts in Net zero transition. And finally reducing

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methane emissions with proposals being sought to improve accounting and

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identify emissions. Baselines that allow industry to experiment with

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mitigation strategies. The second of the missions that I

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wanted to to call out is the Hydrogen Industry mission,

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which has the ambition of supporting global decarbonization through supporting

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the establishment of a commercially viable Australian hydrogen industry comprising

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both domestic and export value chains. By 2030.

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the call here, and we'll be happy to answer

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any questions. Um, the mission has identified one

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topic area as part of its Global Centers call,

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and that relates to scaling green hydrogen markets, and

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proposals are sought that support the development and uptake of

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hydrogen technologies in the following key areas. Mobility is

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an early target market for hydrogen industry development. Hydrogen

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utilisation in heavy industry as a longer term demand driver

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and hydrogen energy systems integration. The third mission is

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the renewable energy powerhouse Mission. Now this mission is

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seeking to bring together some of the work within CSIRO

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energy, metals and energy storage. To deliver sovereign

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solutions decarbonise is our energy systems. This

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energy metals by creating and demonstrating breakthrough technologies. Now

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there's one topic under this mission which is being called

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out as part of the Global Centres Call and that

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relates to critical energy, metals and energy storage with

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proposals to address any of the following areas supply demand,

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secondary sources of critical minerals as well as systems and

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integration, where the challenges for Australia to look at

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moving towards a decarbonised energy sector. Chris Vernon is

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the mission lead for that particular mission and his online

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and happy to answer any questions and finally smart energy.

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reliable, affordable and sustainable and equitable energy for communities

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an integrated framework for energy system evaluations and forecasting by

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by integrating distributed energy resources, data and services to

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benefit all Australians. And there's one topic under the

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this particular mission which relates to integrated energy systems intelligence

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with proposal sort that draw on the latest advances in

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one or more of the following areas relating to integrated

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multi energy system transformation, including the practical realities

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of installed assets and carbon water and land use constraints,

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integration and optimisation of distributed energy resources with specific focus

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on system performance, social acceptance and energy equity and

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then multi energy system digitalisation and Stephen Craig is on

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the call and he's the lead for this particular mission.

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So I've given you an overview of the Missions programme

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and the Global centres at its broadest level. What

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I want to do now is hand over to Ruth

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the specifics of the global centres call itself and what

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we're expecting from Australian applicants. So over to you,

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Ruth, Thank you so much, Alex. Hi,

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everyone. I'm Ruth Pring. I'm a strategy manager

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from the C.S.I.R.O Missions Office and I'm going to share

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with you some details about the solicitation process for the

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global Centres programme. In terms of the funding opportunity,

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NSF anticipates making awards of up to $5 million US Dollars to

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each centre, with international funding agencies expected to support

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roughly comparable effort by their own researchers. For Australia

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based applicants, there's a total of $7 million Australian dollars available

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over five financial years from FY 24 through to FY

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28. There is no minimum or maximum grant amount

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within that bracket, but we expect proposals to be

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in the vicinity of 3 to 5 million.

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an Australia based participant for a global centre proposal and

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you must be based in a university identified as a

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table A or table B provider under the Higher Education

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Support Act or a corporate commonwealth entity or publicly funded

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research agency or a cooperative research centre, and you

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must comply with the Australian Code for the responsible conduct

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of research. Your global centre partnership must involve the

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US and Australia, and collaboration with one or more

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other countries and multiple partners or constituencies is encouraged.

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For Australia based applicants, funding will only be available

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for activities that fall under the definition of research covering

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basic research. Applied research and experimental development proposals will

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be particularly welcome from Australian based applicants who seek to

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work with indigenous communities and organisations to create indigenous driven

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science solutions. To help you navigate the solicitation process.

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I want to clarify the roles of C.S.I.R.O and NSF.

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The Global Centres programme is led by NSF. CSIRO

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is a funding partner agency. As such, NSF

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should be your main source of information about the programme

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and the proposal process. Your proposal must be submitted

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directly to NSF by your lead US partner CSIRO as

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Funding Partner Agency is here to advise Australia based applicants

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on their eligibility and Australia specific criteria and requirements in

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terms of dates. The NSF solicitation document sets out

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the application process in detail, but Here's a timeline

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of the key dates. Your application must be submitted

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to the NSF by the eligible US based Collaborating applicant

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by the 10th of May 2023 after applications are submitted.

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Bare in mind that CSIRO make contact Australian applicants to

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request information and application details for the purposes of eligibility

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and compliance checking and for preparing for grant agreement negotiations.

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made between May to September and NSF is responsible for

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the merit review of proposals. The NSF Merit review

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process will include an assessment of whether the requirements and

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criteria for Australian applicants have been met. NSF will

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make best efforts to include reviewers on their assessment panel

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who are knowledgeable about the science landscape in Australia.

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CSIRO are post panel collaborators being involved Once NSF have

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completed the Merit Review post-award, the CSIRO Missions

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Programme Office will act as grant manager, coordinating grant

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agreements and reporting for Australia based grantees. I hope

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that's provided you with a helpful overview of the process

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and I'm going to hand back to Alex now out

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on the floor for questions. Okay. Thank you

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very much, Ruth, for that overview. And

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so, as Ruth mentioned, we're now going to

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take the opportunity to do some Q and A with

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a number of the members of the people on the

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programme Director from the National Science Foundation, Karen Lips,

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uh, programme director from the National Science Foundation,

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mission. Chris Vernon. The mission lead for the

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renewable energy powerhouse Mission Vicky AU the Deputy mission lead

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for hydrogen industry mission and Michael Battaglia, the lead

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for the towards net zero emission. So I'm hoping

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collectively we will be able to answer all of the

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questions that you've You've got to ask for us.

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Um, as mentioned there are, I think,

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multiple ways to provide your questions into the chat and

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they are being moderated and passed to me. Um,

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so I'm going to to pass across firstly to Vicky

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Au with one of the questions that has come through,

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which relates to the scaling green hydrogen bid. Um,

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and and one of the questions has asked, but

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it seems to be alignment with the scaling green hydrogen

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CRC bid. Does this present an opportunity for the

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National Science Foundation and for this particular call? So,

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Vicky, I'll leave that one to you to answer.

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Thanks. And thanks for the question. So the

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scaling hydrogen seen green hydrogen CRC, um, that

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is going through the Australian process with the normal kind

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of CRC. Um, bidding guidelines. The timeline

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is a little bit different. Um, that is

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going through its first stage now with bringing together partners

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from industry and research, and you will be able

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to see the programme areas, research programme, areas

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that are outlined there. Um, I'll be able

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to find it in the background and, um what,

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you know what they are. But they do cover

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things like, um, land and water production storage.

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community engagement one as well. There's five research programmes

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there. Um, this here is specifically around international

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collaboration. Um, so, yes, the themes

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are similar, but it's a different process. And,

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um, it is a different kind of timeline for

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for bidding as well. You may also be familiar that,

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um, involvement of international partners in Australian CRC bids.

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process. And sometimes, um, it's not as

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straightforward in that way for taking advantage of that,

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similar. And that's because there is a common problem

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that we are trying to address here. That common

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challenge of trying to scale up the hydrogen industry.

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I hope that has helped with the question, um,

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otherwise, please feel free to put in a follow

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up one. Excellent. Thanks, Vicky. Um,

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now, I might leave this particular next question for

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consideration of whether Paul, Karen or Ruth would like

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to answer. And this relates to the assessment process.

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Um, and, uh, particularly the question around

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whether the assessment is undertaken by the National Science Foundation

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by itself or National Science Foundation in partnership with C.S.I.R.O.

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Um, I'll leave it to your decisions as to

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who wants to jump in and answer that one?

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So the NSF has a very transparent and very critical

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process. Uh, so if you log onto the

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NSF website, you'll be able to find all kind

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of information about how we evaluate and assess, uh,

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the quality of the value of the merit of any

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proposal which is sent to an NSF and itself will

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receive the proposal from, uh, from or the

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P I, which are us based with some information,

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of course, of the team in Australia in particular

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for for this Australia C.S.I.R.O collaboration, I mean in

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NSF cycles collaboration and and then we also apply or

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a very tricky process. So it goes through external

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reviewers panellists and as the others were saying before,

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the merit review process will be carried out only by

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NSF. Uh, but taking into account, of

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course, the mission that C.S.I.R.O just explain, uh,

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in the produce recommendation and taking into account all the

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priority theme and including of most people, reviewers or

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panellists that knows about the landscape of science in Australia.

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But the merits review process will be definitely carried out

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NSF, and we'll get the final ranking, of

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course, For for the final awarding, C.S.I.R.O will

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will be discussing with NSF to bring the best

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portfolio, uh, for the final decision. Karen,

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would you like to add something to that I hope

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to resolve. So please ask another question if it's

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not excellent. Thank you, Paul, Ruth. I'm

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just checking. If you wanted to add anything,

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otherwise we might go to the next question. No,

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I think that's really clear. But just to reiterate,

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CSIRO is not involved with the Merit Review assessment process.

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Thanks. Very thanks, Paul. Um so the

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other question that I've received is is the $7 million

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funding from the Australian side relating to $7 million for

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each proposal? Or is there only $7 million in

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in total available? I can answer that one,

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Alex. So it's $7 million in total available for

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potentially multiple centres, depending on the amounts that are

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in the proposals and a number of these questions.

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I think you'll find the details in the solicitation text

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and in some of the guidance material that gets published

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on the website. But one thing Ruth you may

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want to talk about is the estimated sizes of the

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applications from the Australian side that we anticipate in the

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way we've stipulated that in the guidelines. Yeah,

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absolutely, Alex. So the expectation is that proposals

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will be in the vicinity of 3 to $5 million

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but there is no maximum or minimum amount as long

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as it's within the $7 million bracket. That's correct.

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So, yeah, we're looking for Yeah, your

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imagination and creativity within that funding envelope. Uh,

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the next question also relates to I think, material

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that will be made available in the solicitation and again

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encourage you to have a look at the website around

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the list of the topics under each of the missions.

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Um, that will be eligible for consideration. Um,

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And so, Ruth, correct me if I'm wrong,

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that's in the solicitation documentation. Yeah. The easiest

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place to access that information is on the CSIRO dedicated

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website for the Global Centres programme. So recommend starting

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there, um and there's a reasonable amount of detail

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there about the topic areas and also links to the

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to further information about their relevant missions. And one

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00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:11,420
thing I would add is the mission leads who are

492
00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:13,910
on the call here will be very happy to answer

493
00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:16,880
any questions that you might have to understand what their

494
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480
intent is behind some of the language that's included in

495
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,970
that call, Um, and to ensure that we

496
00:27:21,970 --> 00:27:25,420
come up with robust proposals for consideration through the peer

497
00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:28,200
review process. Um so as we have them on

498
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,309
the call, there's an opportunity for you to ask

499
00:27:30,309 --> 00:27:33,599
any questions of substance relating to the mission topics and

500
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,490
themes being explored. But yeah, it's definitely worth

501
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,470
reaching out to them and having those conversations in the

502
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:45,920
lead up to the application process. I'm going to,

503
00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:48,359
uh, throw to another question out, and I'm

504
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,990
not sure who is best to answer this one.

505
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:53,970
Which relates to where does offshore wind energy fit into

506
00:27:53,970 --> 00:27:56,410
the CSIRO priorities? Um, it doesn't seem to

507
00:27:56,410 --> 00:27:59,329
have a home in the categories just explained as opposed

508
00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:02,000
to hydrogen. Um, I'm not sure whether this

509
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,930
may be slightly outside the scope of the NSF Global

510
00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:07,609
Centres call, but I'm going to leave it to

511
00:28:07,609 --> 00:28:09,829
one of the mission leads to jump in and talk

512
00:28:09,829 --> 00:28:12,079
about the extent to which they are thinking about offshore

513
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:17,140
wind as part of the energy system. Alex,

514
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:19,339
I can comment on that one. Steve Craig Smart

515
00:28:19,339 --> 00:28:22,970
energy. So one of our focus areas is called

516
00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:27,849
integrated transformation, and that is about all the different

517
00:28:27,849 --> 00:28:30,450
technologies in a broader system context. That could come

518
00:28:30,450 --> 00:28:33,069
into play as we transform the energy system. And

519
00:28:33,069 --> 00:28:37,940
offshore wind could absolutely be one of those. Excellent.

520
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:43,420
Thanks, Steve. Another question relating to methane emissions,

521
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:46,380
which I might throw to to Michael, which is

522
00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:49,400
a clear obstacle to reducing methane emissions, is our

523
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,700
current lack of understanding of current emissions. Would research

524
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:55,569
and improving this understanding fall within the area of science

525
00:28:55,569 --> 00:28:59,650
that's likely to be funded? Absolutely. It would,

526
00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:04,269
um, both need to understand, uh, sources

527
00:29:04,269 --> 00:29:08,609
and attributions of methane emissions from multiple sectors as well

528
00:29:08,609 --> 00:29:12,640
as, uh, technologies to reduce those emissions would

529
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:19,490
be in scope. Excellent. Um, now does

530
00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:21,890
the towards I'm gonna do a follow up for you,

531
00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:24,269
Michael, based on some of the questions that I'm

532
00:29:24,269 --> 00:29:27,650
getting, But does the towards net zero mission consider

533
00:29:27,650 --> 00:29:35,589
just transition strategies? I'm not sure. The towards

534
00:29:35,589 --> 00:29:39,599
Net zero mission is both about how how do we

535
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:42,990
support and accelerate transitions? But also, how do

536
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:47,460
we create the technology pathways to allow that as well

537
00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:52,569
as, um, some of the exante assessment

538
00:29:52,569 --> 00:29:56,240
and prioritisation areas? If you're thinking of the pathways

539
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,380
options. So how do we embed technology into systems

540
00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:03,900
have used to accelerate transitions How do we support transitions

541
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:08,819
through things like governance and collaborative learning? And then

542
00:30:08,819 --> 00:30:10,970
also, how do we build the four? Citing

543
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:15,130
and anticipatory systems that allow us to direct action would

544
00:30:15,130 --> 00:30:20,640
all come under that pathways activity. Okay. Thanks,

545
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,609
Michael. Um, a question again for for Ruth,

546
00:30:24,609 --> 00:30:27,329
I think. Which is? So does the Australian

547
00:30:27,329 --> 00:30:30,470
applicants submit the application, or does it go through

548
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:32,650
a US partner doing the lead? What does that

549
00:30:32,650 --> 00:30:35,019
process look like? And Paul and Karen may want

550
00:30:35,019 --> 00:30:38,390
to answer from a the process of the administration.

551
00:30:38,390 --> 00:30:41,009
How does that look when you're an Australian participant in

552
00:30:41,009 --> 00:30:45,130
a US led call? So to answer the first

553
00:30:45,130 --> 00:30:47,599
part of the question, the application needs to be

554
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,440
submitted by the lead us proponent to directly to NSF

555
00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:54,940
and not to CSIRO now Ill hand to Paul and Karen.

556
00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:05,839
And you want to take this one? Sure.

557
00:31:05,849 --> 00:31:12,109
The US applicant will submit the full proposal through our

558
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:16,259
online portal. Um, and I believe that the

559
00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:20,480
Australian side also has to submit to the Australian side,

560
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,759
um, their their portion of it. And so

561
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,029
there's a particular requirements in the US side to describe

562
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:31,150
the partnership with the Australian side of the team including,

563
00:31:31,150 --> 00:31:34,509
for example, the description of the budget that will

564
00:31:34,509 --> 00:31:39,269
be associated with the Australian team separate from the full

565
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:44,950
budget for the full centre. Yeah, and I'll

566
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:47,390
have that in, uh, the NSF solicitation.

567
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,539
Uh, you have a specific section which is dedicated

568
00:31:50,539 --> 00:31:53,529
to partnership with Australia, where you will find all

569
00:31:53,539 --> 00:31:57,180
the information that, uh, CSIRO may request,

570
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:59,930
uh, in the framework of the application for global

571
00:31:59,930 --> 00:32:02,740
Centre. So a good starting point would be,

572
00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:04,940
as before, to go to the CSIRO site,

573
00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:08,250
of course, but also to go to the global

574
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:11,279
centres Uh, NSF site. And then you can

575
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,589
find the solicitation. And in the solicitation, uh,

576
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,670
one of the specific section you have partnership with Australia

577
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,619
and here you'll find all the neccessary information

578
00:32:19,619 --> 00:32:23,710
you need to know. Thanks, Paul. And

579
00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:25,740
yes, I think just to to reiterate, please

580
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:28,559
take the time to look through the documentation and also

581
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,970
to have a look at the process of submitting your

582
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:34,230
component of the information into the NSF. And don't

583
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:36,890
leave that to the last minute. I understand that

584
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:39,160
that's not a quick process, so just make sure

585
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,039
that you're prepared early and have already considered some of

586
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:46,450
the material. A question about eligibility that we've received

587
00:32:46,450 --> 00:32:50,160
is is their opportunities for other publicly funded research organisations

588
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,099
to engage alongside CSIRO in this call, I'll give

589
00:32:53,099 --> 00:32:56,630
that one to Ruth. Yeah, absolutely. Um

590
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,369
So just to reiterate the eligibility requirements, this is

591
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:05,900
most certainly open to other research organisations outside of CSIRO.

592
00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:08,740
Um, to be eligible, you need to be

593
00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:12,839
from an Australian based, um uh, university,

594
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,609
as identified in table A or table B under the

595
00:33:15,609 --> 00:33:18,450
Higher Education Support Act. Or you can be from

596
00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:22,410
a corporate commonwealth entity or publicly funded research agency or

597
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:25,130
a C R C. Um, those are the

598
00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:32,630
organisation types from which we'll accept applications. Okay.

599
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,859
Thanks, Ruth. Um, a question about and

600
00:33:36,859 --> 00:33:39,789
I'm not sure whether this could be answered by the

601
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:42,700
NSF for by the mission leads individually Which is,

602
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:45,509
will there be a service to connect us leads to

603
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:47,960
Australian research organisations? So what is that? That

604
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:57,910
process for building the early stage connections and partnerships uh,

605
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,269
from the NSF side is basic. Uh, let's

606
00:34:01,269 --> 00:34:03,839
so essentially the P I will be in charge of

607
00:34:03,849 --> 00:34:07,599
building the global centres. I mean, essentially to

608
00:34:07,609 --> 00:34:12,280
contact his collaborators partners in, uh, in different

609
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,320
countries including, of course, Australia, which is

610
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,690
for track one very important partner. And, uh,

611
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:22,210
and they will have to explain how the partnership will

612
00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:26,079
work in the proposal. So and we really expect

613
00:34:26,090 --> 00:34:30,599
very well integrated partnership not parralels toward the same goal

614
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,239
that really, uh, that basically,

615
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,690
the the whole will be bigger than the sum of

616
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:42,179
the parts. Excellent. Thank you, Paul.

617
00:34:42,190 --> 00:34:44,670
And I might just ask a follow up question,

618
00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:47,500
I think which is relating to the partnerships with the

619
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,449
U. K. And Canadian partners and what that

620
00:34:50,449 --> 00:34:53,659
looks like in terms of building these multinational partnerships.

621
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:56,130
What do you envisage in terms of the levels of

622
00:34:56,130 --> 00:35:01,630
integration? I'll take this. I think for all

623
00:35:01,630 --> 00:35:04,260
these, they have to be very well integrated.

624
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:08,230
And so we're hoping to get, um, you

625
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:12,690
know, trilateral or perhaps four way uh, teams,

626
00:35:12,699 --> 00:35:16,679
including all the different funding agencies in those cases.

627
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,480
Of course, we would expect these these groups of

628
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,010
researchers to have had some prior, um interactions because

629
00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:27,380
that will allow them to really provide a very strong,

630
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:31,329
cohesive, integrated proposal that will be well, well

631
00:35:31,329 --> 00:35:37,000
received. Excellent. Thanks Karen, Um, So

632
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,820
I'm going to go Another question for Michel, which

633
00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:43,489
again goes back to the methane emissions question is,

634
00:35:43,489 --> 00:35:47,030
will production of fuels such as fuels to mitigate methane

635
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:52,070
emissions be supported by this programme? Um, we

636
00:35:52,070 --> 00:35:56,250
would definitely be interested in from our missions point of

637
00:35:56,250 --> 00:36:02,349
view, considering sustainable aviation fuels and global opportunities around

638
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,699
around those areas. Um, whilst we don't specifically

639
00:36:06,699 --> 00:36:10,269
focus on a lot of avoided emissions with fuels as

640
00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:14,889
part of integrating that in into broader pathways for economic

641
00:36:14,889 --> 00:36:20,030
transition, you know, and including that into the

642
00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:23,480
integrated assessments would be a clear part of what we'd

643
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,110
be interested in, particularly in that transitions area where

644
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,099
things like, you know, how do these things

645
00:36:30,099 --> 00:36:34,230
get represented into integrated assessment models to build pathways and

646
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:40,630
allow for the interdependencies in the choices we make would

647
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:45,769
be a real opportunity. Thanks, Michael. And

648
00:36:45,769 --> 00:36:48,829
one for Vicky, which is, uh, hydrogen

649
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,869
industry programme. Can we target a specific energy producing

650
00:36:51,869 --> 00:36:57,269
technologies such as gas turbines? Um, I believe

651
00:36:57,269 --> 00:36:59,400
so. I think the main thing really is about

652
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,590
those themes of how, um how the proposal,

653
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:07,360
um, is planning to scale, um, the

654
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,449
hydrogen industry, um, demand utilisation. You'll see

655
00:37:12,449 --> 00:37:15,710
that the, um, three themes that, um,

656
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,539
Alex mentioned earlier about mobility as an early target market

657
00:37:20,539 --> 00:37:22,349
and heavy industry. As you know, a longer

658
00:37:22,349 --> 00:37:26,090
term play. If you can incorporate how gas turbines,

659
00:37:26,099 --> 00:37:28,360
um, come into that, or I think the

660
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,019
last one was about integrated systems. Um, then

661
00:37:31,019 --> 00:37:33,880
certainly you can include that as part of the proposal

662
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,210
bid and, um, the theme of it.

663
00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:41,219
It's really about the application. Thanks, Vicky.

664
00:37:41,230 --> 00:37:43,070
And I think this goes to one of the other

665
00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:45,650
questions that we've received, which is a general one,

666
00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:48,599
which is our The mission leads open discussing open to

667
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:52,380
discussing specific project ideas directly with Australian chief investigators.

668
00:37:52,380 --> 00:37:54,869
And I think the answer is absolutely yes. Um,

669
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,829
please don't hesitate to contact any of them to have

670
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,599
conversations. I would just encourage you to do it

671
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,539
quickly. Um, given the time period that we've

672
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:07,570
got for pulling the applications together. And as Karen

673
00:38:07,570 --> 00:38:10,400
and Paul mentioned that level of integration, um,

674
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,079
and and partnership that needs to be in place for

675
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,630
the for the global centres calls. But yeah,

676
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:19,280
please don't hesitate to reach out to them. Um,

677
00:38:19,289 --> 00:38:23,000
I'm going to go to another question, which is

678
00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:24,860
I'm going to not be able to answer this one,

679
00:38:24,860 --> 00:38:26,730
but just to flag, um, that it's something

680
00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:28,440
that we will need to provide some advice. Or

681
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,000
I suggest that you speak to your research offices about

682
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,139
which is what category of university research funding? Uh,

683
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:36,960
this would fall under, um and so I don't

684
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,860
have the answer to that one. Um, for

685
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:40,880
our US colleagues on the call, this is an

686
00:38:40,889 --> 00:38:43,880
idiosyncrasy with the way in which our research block grants

687
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,079
are allocated. Um, and so we will try

688
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:48,559
and get back to you with an answer on that.

689
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:51,949
But I suggest that you contact your your individual research

690
00:38:51,949 --> 00:38:54,130
office to come to a view about the best way

691
00:38:54,130 --> 00:38:59,199
of calculating that. Um, another question I've received

692
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:03,239
is the NSF solicitation stresses fundamental research. But the

693
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,320
messaging from CSIRO sounds more applied. Could anyone comment

694
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,780
on this? So Paul and Karen, I might

695
00:39:08,789 --> 00:39:11,719
get you to comment around kind of where we expect

696
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,500
to see proposals on that TRL scale and that level

697
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:18,940
of use inspired research that we've been talking about. I can

698
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:21,380
start and try to do that. So there is

699
00:39:21,389 --> 00:39:23,670
the term used inspired. And, uh, and

700
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:26,420
we thought a lot about what it means because NSF

701
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:30,070
is really about the basics research. Uh, so,

702
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:34,840
uh, what is used inspired basic research and the

703
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,050
way I can we can place it is to say

704
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:41,019
it's that it has some foreseeable application in in the

705
00:39:41,019 --> 00:39:43,780
future, but foreseeable application. And actually, I'd

706
00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:50,780
like to to insist that we strongly encourage the investigators,

707
00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:54,179
the professors, uh, to to reach out beyond

708
00:39:54,179 --> 00:39:57,920
academia to, uh, the industry non profit and

709
00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:01,829
and all these, uh, collaborators can actually also

710
00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:06,400
contribute to carrying, uh, research out of the

711
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,550
land and into the society and to to find some

712
00:40:09,550 --> 00:40:12,409
associate associated benefits. So I don't know if the

713
00:40:12,409 --> 00:40:16,579
answer is clear. We definitely want basic research.

714
00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:20,730
And yet, uh, with application, foreseeable.

715
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:27,699
Excellent. Thanks, Paul. That question the answer

716
00:40:27,699 --> 00:40:29,699
to that question is clear to me. Um,

717
00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:32,670
but yeah, please don't hesitate to ask any follow

718
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:35,760
up questions if you if you have any. Another

719
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,360
question relates to equipment purchases and infrastructure. And is

720
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,460
there a rule about where this should be located?

721
00:40:42,469 --> 00:40:45,010
Uh, in terms of whether it's located within the

722
00:40:45,010 --> 00:40:47,750
U. S. Or one of the partnering institutions

723
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:53,099
or host countries. Indeed, I would gather that

724
00:40:53,099 --> 00:40:55,639
if the USPI is requesting the

725
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,280
material that NSF funds would go to the U.

726
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,440
USPI and any materials purchased would be

727
00:41:01,449 --> 00:41:03,699
in the, you know, the the lab of

728
00:41:03,699 --> 00:41:05,230
the U. S. Side. And I would

729
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:09,789
assume the same would apply to request from Australian researchers.

730
00:41:09,789 --> 00:41:13,030
Were CSIRO would be funding that and would remain in

731
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:17,130
that person's lab. Thanks, Karen. And I

732
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:20,670
think Ruth, maybe just if you could clarify the

733
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,400
conditions of how the funding could be allocated from the

734
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,769
Australian side so that people understand what the parameters are.

735
00:41:29,469 --> 00:41:30,829
I get you to circle back to me on that

736
00:41:30,829 --> 00:41:33,030
question, Alex, if that's OK, yeah,

737
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:35,039
no worries. I think the main thing from my

738
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:36,929
perspective, is it has to meet that definition of

739
00:41:36,929 --> 00:41:40,489
research and funding on capital equipment. We will need

740
00:41:40,489 --> 00:41:43,989
to clarify, particularly around whether there are any restrictions

741
00:41:43,989 --> 00:41:46,429
that we have to place on the expenditure on our

742
00:41:46,429 --> 00:41:51,980
side of those particular activities. Um, can projects

743
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:55,400
involve Australia's oceanic partner countries? So I guess I

744
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,849
would reframe that question around. Can other countries not

745
00:41:58,860 --> 00:42:02,360
listed in the in the global centres called Participate as

746
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,199
part of the call again, Paul and Karen.

747
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,190
I'm might leave this one for you to answer.

748
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:08,969
Alex, you can answer this one too. But

749
00:42:08,969 --> 00:42:12,619
essentially Yes, of course. We are not to

750
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:17,389
tell how participant has to carry their research. Uh,

751
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,679
if another country expertise or collaborator based in another country

752
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,619
which is not part of the three country mentioned the

753
00:42:23,619 --> 00:42:26,269
global central track one, uh, needs to be

754
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,449
Oh, of course. However, keep in mind

755
00:42:28,449 --> 00:42:32,440
that the main thrust of the research should be actually

756
00:42:32,449 --> 00:42:35,699
carry out in the in the for the three country

757
00:42:35,699 --> 00:42:38,829
involved, which is Australia, Canada and the UK.

758
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,880
But, of course, you can bring in researcher

759
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,329
from other countries globally. Excellent. Um, and

760
00:42:46,329 --> 00:42:49,289
is there an expectation from the Australian side around the

761
00:42:49,289 --> 00:42:52,559
number of Australian partners that would be involved? So

762
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:54,739
is there a scenario in which CSIRO is involved,

763
00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:57,360
but not leading a proposal or a proposal in which

764
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,750
there are multiple institutions from the Australian side participating?

765
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:10,219
This one might be for Ruth. Sorry, Alex.

766
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:12,050
Can I have that one again, please? Yes.

767
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:16,940
So the question is, can there be multiple institutions,

768
00:43:16,949 --> 00:43:21,289
not including CSIRO necessarily being involved in an application.

769
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,460
Yes, they can. Yep. I could also

770
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:29,170
just provide a little bit more information about the eligible

771
00:43:29,170 --> 00:43:31,250
activities in terms of the funding request. As per

772
00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:35,400
the previous question. Um, just quickly run over

773
00:43:35,409 --> 00:43:39,559
eligible expenditure. Um, salary support for Australian based

774
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:42,929
personnel, stipends for higher degree research students, travel

775
00:43:42,929 --> 00:43:47,019
costs, expenditure on field research essential to the centre

776
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:50,139
limited equipment and its maintenance. Um, there'll be

777
00:43:50,139 --> 00:43:54,079
further detail of that published shortly on the CSIRO NSF

778
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,730
Global Center's website, where will be providing some more

779
00:43:56,730 --> 00:44:02,690
detailed guidelines about grant agreements and their arrangements. Excellent.

780
00:44:02,699 --> 00:44:05,099
Thanks, Ruth, Um, and very aware that

781
00:44:05,110 --> 00:44:08,119
some of the idiosyncrasies of those rules will be highly

782
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,650
relevant for some of the universities in terms of considering

783
00:44:10,659 --> 00:44:15,099
how to participate. Another question. Is university or

784
00:44:15,099 --> 00:44:17,889
industry co funding required, or will it be considered

785
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:21,510
favourably? Um, so I guess that's the question

786
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:24,710
of the way in which the merit assessment process considers

787
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,920
co investment co funding from from the industry sectors.

788
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:32,789
I mean, I think for NSF, we are

789
00:44:32,789 --> 00:44:36,519
always, um, appreciative when PIs go

790
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:39,889
out and find additional funding to support to support their

791
00:44:39,889 --> 00:44:44,590
work. Um but we are are agnostic in terms

792
00:44:44,590 --> 00:44:47,710
of how, that way, certainly it would be,

793
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,739
you know, something good to see. But,

794
00:44:50,750 --> 00:44:53,469
um, you know, the merit review is based

795
00:44:53,469 --> 00:44:56,510
on, uh, NSF merit review criteria, which

796
00:44:56,510 --> 00:45:03,230
is intellectual merit and then broader impacts. I could

797
00:45:03,230 --> 00:45:05,949
just add to that, Alex that CSIRO would certainly

798
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,980
be. See it as being favourable if there was

799
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:15,139
co investment secured by Australian applicants. Excellent. Thanks.

800
00:45:15,139 --> 00:45:16,789
Ruth and Paul. I'm not sure if you wanted

801
00:45:16,789 --> 00:45:20,269
to add anything on that one. Does that the

802
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,329
beside the the NSF merits review, uh, intellectual

803
00:45:24,329 --> 00:45:27,820
merit and, in fact, the solicitation. Specify

804
00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:31,840
some, uh, specific solicitation criteria specific Christiania in

805
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,809
addition to So I really encourage, uh, people

806
00:45:35,809 --> 00:45:38,739
here to go to the document and read this What

807
00:45:38,739 --> 00:45:41,670
is expected, actually, and how the proposal will

808
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:44,650
be evaluated in terms of intellectual merit and broader impacts,

809
00:45:44,659 --> 00:45:47,150
because some of the questions that has been asked are

810
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:51,199
answered in the document. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks,

811
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,579
Paul. Um, now, this is a question

812
00:45:53,579 --> 00:45:55,639
which I'm going to direct to some of the mission

813
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:57,860
leads, which relates to whether there will be a

814
00:45:57,860 --> 00:46:01,239
teaming partners list. Uh um, I think the

815
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,750
question is around. Will there be a teeming partners

816
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:07,849
list hosted by the NSF that shows interested US institutions?

817
00:46:07,929 --> 00:46:09,739
And I'm not sure what the answer to that one

818
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:12,360
it will be, but also from a CSIRO side.

819
00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:16,340
Will CSIRO list Australian institutions that might be interested in

820
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:18,829
participating? And so what I was going to do

821
00:46:18,829 --> 00:46:20,800
for that one is throw to the mission leads to

822
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,750
kind of explain how they would envisage, I think,

823
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:26,880
the best way of forming some some potential partnerships and

824
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,440
collaborations. What would work best for you guys in

825
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,289
terms of seeing the highest quality applications come through?

826
00:46:38,269 --> 00:46:41,920
We'd be happy to talk about existing connections, but

827
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,869
we wouldn't want to prejudice anyone reaching out to any

828
00:46:44,869 --> 00:46:48,800
other part of the innovation system for what they thought

829
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,119
was most appropriate or things that sat outside our existing

830
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:55,130
relationships. So we're happy to help, but I

831
00:46:55,130 --> 00:46:57,440
don't think I'd envisage putting up a list in case

832
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:05,409
that prejudices independent procurement type rules here. Thanks Michael

833
00:47:05,409 --> 00:47:07,320
and Paul and Karen. I'm not sure whether that

834
00:47:07,329 --> 00:47:10,820
you have specific rules or processes for that approach,

835
00:47:10,829 --> 00:47:15,869
noting you have a slightly different yeah function on this

836
00:47:15,869 --> 00:47:17,039
one, but No, I think the answer is

837
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:21,389
no to that one. Um, so, uh,

838
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,690
just having a look. A question about national laboratories

839
00:47:24,690 --> 00:47:26,489
in the US particularly. I think one of the

840
00:47:26,489 --> 00:47:29,949
questions has come up around NREL, but more generally,

841
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,039
uh, national institutions, national laboratories in the US

842
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:35,210
Eligible to participate as a partner from the U.

843
00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:38,920
S side. I can take this one. So

844
00:47:38,929 --> 00:47:41,480
national lab in the US are part of the government,

845
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,119
and NSF is also an executive branch of the government.

846
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:47,400
So the general rule is usually the government doesn't fund

847
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,210
the government. However, however, uh, if

848
00:47:52,219 --> 00:47:55,300
there is really a need to bring in a researcher

849
00:47:55,610 --> 00:47:59,280
from a national lab and as PI or a

850
00:47:59,289 --> 00:48:01,150
co PI, uh, then you need to

851
00:48:01,150 --> 00:48:04,079
contact a programme officer at NSF and ask if

852
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,610
that is possible. And if you make the case

853
00:48:06,619 --> 00:48:09,789
that this is really mandatory for X or Y reason,

854
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,949
uh, then they can make an exception. But that

855
00:48:12,949 --> 00:48:15,519
has to be made before using the product. So

856
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:18,989
in other words. Make sure to contact one

857
00:48:18,989 --> 00:48:21,219
of the programme of Fisher at NSF and make sure

858
00:48:21,219 --> 00:48:22,940
that you have an answer that they okay go ahead.

859
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,309
You can. You can include this particular researcher or,

860
00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:30,170
uh, into your project. But as a general

861
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:32,190
rule, the government doesn't fund the government. So

862
00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:35,840
usually, of course, these researcher in national can

863
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,650
participate to a global centre, uh, proposal and

864
00:48:40,659 --> 00:48:44,539
project, but as no close collaborator. So as

865
00:48:44,539 --> 00:48:46,519
long as NSF doesn't fund them, they can always

866
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:52,079
participate. Excellent. Um, as a question for

867
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:56,750
Ruth going back to clarifying the total funding that's available.

868
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,719
So we've talked about $7 million in total funding from

869
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,500
the Australian side. Um, that sounds like there's

870
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:06,090
$7 million to share amongst all applicants from the Australian

871
00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:09,070
side. Is that correct? Um uh, And

872
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,840
what is the breakdown down in terms of the likely

873
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,409
number of projects that would be funded from the Australian

874
00:49:14,409 --> 00:49:19,079
side? Given that so it's really going to depend

875
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:23,269
on what applicants are most highly recommended through the merit

876
00:49:23,269 --> 00:49:26,610
review process And what funding bracket they've what funding amount

877
00:49:26,610 --> 00:49:30,369
they've requested so will essentially be making the decision about

878
00:49:30,369 --> 00:49:33,099
what we fund on the basis of the merit review.

879
00:49:33,110 --> 00:49:36,280
Um and yes, the seven million will be the

880
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,500
total amount. So depending on what's recommended and what

881
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:41,679
we're able to fund within that bracket that will determine

882
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:46,579
the number of centres that we fund. Excellent.

883
00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:51,110
Thank you. Um, a question from, uh,

884
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,860
from someone about CSIRO supporting ocean space work related to

885
00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:58,349
climate change, fisheries and offshore wind energy. Um,

886
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,719
so work that would inform the sighting of offshore wind

887
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,030
energy that Steve, I think this one might be

888
00:50:04,030 --> 00:50:06,190
a follow up from a question that was asked earlier

889
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:09,039
there might let you answer that one. Yes,

890
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:12,380
certainly. In scope for smart energy, the interactions

891
00:50:12,380 --> 00:50:16,380
between environmental systems and the energy system so it could

892
00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:20,599
be water resources. It could be climate change that

893
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,920
will form the backdrop of the future energy systems.

894
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,119
So those types of interactions between natural systems and our

895
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:31,349
engineered systems in scope. Excellent. Thanks, Steve.

896
00:50:31,909 --> 00:50:35,159
Um, and a follow up question which has been

897
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:37,429
captured. But it's really important for us to be

898
00:50:37,429 --> 00:50:39,849
really clear and explicit about this, given the unique

899
00:50:39,849 --> 00:50:43,280
role that CSIRO is playing both as a funder of

900
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,550
this activity, but also being involved in, uh,

901
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:49,920
identifying potential research opportunities that are there. Um,

902
00:50:49,929 --> 00:50:52,860
this does CSIRO need to be a research partner in

903
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:54,940
one of these calls. And conversely, could it

904
00:50:54,940 --> 00:51:00,130
be the research funder, partner or participant? So

905
00:51:00,130 --> 00:51:01,980
I might leave this one to Ruth to answer just

906
00:51:01,989 --> 00:51:04,079
the way in which we're managing this particular issue.

907
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,519
Yeah, absolutely, Alex. So the answer is

908
00:51:08,530 --> 00:51:11,469
most clearly no CSIRO does not have to be a

909
00:51:11,469 --> 00:51:15,110
partner in a global centre application that involves Australian participants.

910
00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:18,860
The applications can be from other parts of the research

911
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:22,860
system. Um, and there's no requirement to collaborate

912
00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:25,679
directly with CSIRO. The requirement is about that alignment

913
00:51:25,690 --> 00:51:29,219
to the mission nominated topics. Um, so yes,

914
00:51:29,219 --> 00:51:31,570
it's true that it may be the case, however,

915
00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:34,730
that CSIRO maybe an applicant, um, and a

916
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:37,380
grantee, um, and is also the funding agency

917
00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:43,869
in this instance. Excellent. And now a question which

918
00:51:43,869 --> 00:51:45,800
has come up a couple of times is if there's

919
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,230
a research topic that falls into two different streams that's

920
00:51:49,230 --> 00:51:52,059
been identified. Uh, so we we've got those

921
00:51:52,059 --> 00:51:55,139
six particular topics that we've identified that are of interest

922
00:51:55,139 --> 00:51:57,530
to CSIRO and to the missions. How will that be

923
00:51:57,530 --> 00:52:00,380
handled from an assessment process? Uh, the topic

924
00:52:00,380 --> 00:52:07,349
falls between two different streams. So the requirement is

925
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:09,840
for alignment. So as long as there's a compelling

926
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,579
case for it, aligning to at least one of

927
00:52:12,590 --> 00:52:16,820
those themes then that meets that eligibility criteria.

928
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:19,219
Um, if it aligns to more than one,

929
00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:22,429
then you just need to make that clear in the

930
00:52:22,429 --> 00:52:26,090
proposal as to what the different alignments are and how

931
00:52:26,090 --> 00:52:29,360
it's delivering against the objectives of the multiple themes that

932
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:36,059
have been identified as, as related. Excellent.

933
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,090
Karen and Paul, I'll just give you a pause

934
00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:41,429
in case you wanted to add anything from from your

935
00:52:41,429 --> 00:52:47,880
perspective on that one. Actually, absolutely. If

936
00:52:47,889 --> 00:52:51,760
if it's for, uh the intersection between climate change,

937
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,980
clean energy or, I mean what we are going

938
00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:56,500
to look at it to the project as a whole

939
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:59,980
and how we can push the envelope and and how

940
00:52:59,980 --> 00:53:04,000
the partnership will, you know, help build this

941
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,780
exciting research and as an outcome that have some foreseeable

942
00:53:07,789 --> 00:53:11,119
benefits of society. So we're not too concerned about

943
00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:15,860
you know where it's full again. Okay, so

944
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,699
I think on that particular one, it's definitely worth

945
00:53:17,699 --> 00:53:20,900
having a look at the guidance material that CSIRO releases

946
00:53:20,909 --> 00:53:23,809
from our perspective. So just to be really clear

947
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:27,110
on how you understand the when pulling your application together

948
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,050
the requirements from the CSIRO side versus the requirements from

949
00:53:30,050 --> 00:53:31,849
the NSF side. Um, so that will be

950
00:53:31,849 --> 00:53:34,769
something that you definitely need to consider in putting applications

951
00:53:34,769 --> 00:53:39,389
together. Um, another question that I received I'm

952
00:53:39,389 --> 00:53:42,989
interested to get some clarification on Is is it permissible

953
00:53:42,989 --> 00:53:46,050
for a research intensive commercial entity to be a member

954
00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:54,070
of a group submitting an application? And so I'm

955
00:53:54,070 --> 00:53:57,809
going to hand to Ruth on that one. I

956
00:53:57,820 --> 00:54:01,059
think that's an Australian side I'm going to suggest.

957
00:54:01,070 --> 00:54:04,690
And just to reiterate the eligibility requirements, Yeah,

958
00:54:04,699 --> 00:54:06,250
no problem. I'm just going to run over those

959
00:54:06,250 --> 00:54:09,269
again as I've got them here verbatim, because anything

960
00:54:09,269 --> 00:54:11,579
further than that, I'd probably prefer to answer the

961
00:54:11,579 --> 00:54:14,199
question directly and know a little bit more about what

962
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:17,489
organisation the potential applicant is from. So we can

963
00:54:17,489 --> 00:54:19,920
make sure that we're giving an accurate answer just to

964
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,630
reiterate the eligibility criteria again. It must be for

965
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:28,659
an Australia based university, as identified in table A or B

966
00:54:28,659 --> 00:54:31,889
under the Higher Education Support Act or a corporate

967
00:54:31,889 --> 00:54:36,059
commonwealth entity or publicly funded research agency or a cooperative

968
00:54:36,059 --> 00:54:39,579
research centre. Um, so hopefully that does help

969
00:54:39,579 --> 00:54:42,989
with that person's question. But if if they'd like

970
00:54:42,989 --> 00:54:45,809
to clarify further, I'd really recommend contacting us by

971
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:48,239
email and letting us know a bit more about what

972
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,199
agency you're from. And we'll be able to give

973
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:55,059
you a bit more of a specific answer on that

974
00:54:55,059 --> 00:54:59,619
basis. Excellent. Thanks, Ruth. Um,

975
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:02,239
so I might just see if we can answer one

976
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,239
more question, because I'm conscious that we're nearly at

977
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,880
time. Um, there's a question that we've come

978
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,869
from someone about whether there'll be another session midway through

979
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,230
the process. Uh, so in the lead up

980
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:17,139
to that, that may deadline where we provide additional

981
00:55:17,139 --> 00:55:19,829
information or the opportunity for people to provide, um,

982
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,909
you know, follow up questions is there in the

983
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thick of pulling those applications together? Um, I

984
00:55:24,429 --> 00:55:28,059
would suggest that we will strongly consider having that opportunity

985
00:55:28,059 --> 00:55:30,670
available for you to ask questions in a plenary.

986
00:55:30,860 --> 00:55:33,800
Um, I have no doubt that we will have,

987
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,360
and we already have a number of questions that have

988
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,340
come through this very new process that we're undertaking.

989
00:55:38,349 --> 00:55:40,860
Um and so what we will be doing is is

990
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:44,559
putting up some answers to frequently asked questions on our

991
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,460
side. And I'm sure that the NSF will also

992
00:55:46,460 --> 00:55:48,769
have a process for dealing with frequently asked questions.

993
00:55:49,059 --> 00:55:52,139
We very much encourage you to to send any questions

994
00:55:52,139 --> 00:55:53,969
that you've got through, um, as early as

995
00:55:53,969 --> 00:55:55,969
possible so that we can can try and deal with

996
00:55:55,969 --> 00:55:58,579
them. Sometimes they require a bit of time to

997
00:55:58,579 --> 00:56:01,880
to solve when they open a little bit of complexity,

998
00:56:01,889 --> 00:56:04,760
particularly as this is a very new call. Um,

999
00:56:04,769 --> 00:56:07,440
so I might take the opportunity to to finish up

1000
00:56:07,449 --> 00:56:11,119
and and thank everyone for joining us today. Uh,

1001
00:56:11,130 --> 00:56:13,780
in particular. I wanted to thank Paul and Karen.

1002
00:56:13,789 --> 00:56:15,860
I don't know exactly what time it is in the

1003
00:56:15,860 --> 00:56:18,380
US Um, that really do Thank you for taking

1004
00:56:18,380 --> 00:56:21,619
the time to be involved and actively responding to some

1005
00:56:21,619 --> 00:56:23,760
of the questions that we've received. Um, and

1006
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,280
also to Ruth, uh, for leading off on

1007
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,719
the discussions around the programme from the Australian side,

1008
00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:31,090
um, and also to our four mission leads who

1009
00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:34,210
have answered questions as we've gone through so very much

1010
00:56:34,210 --> 00:56:37,219
greatly appreciated. Um, and I wanted to thank

1011
00:56:37,219 --> 00:56:38,889
you again for those of you who have attended the

1012
00:56:38,889 --> 00:56:42,119
webinar. Um, and look forward to seeing the

1013
00:56:42,130 --> 00:56:44,429
way the global centres programme unfolds. in the coming

1014
00:56:44,429 --> 00:56:46,699
months, Um, there will be a post event

1015
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:48,500
email that we will send out to people that have

1016
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:50,900
registered their interest and who have joined, Um,

1017
00:56:50,909 --> 00:56:52,800
that will include a link to the recording of the

1018
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,880
webinar. So you can have a look and review

1019
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,280
the questions that were answered, um, again encourage

1020
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,190
you to to send any questions in writing just to

1021
00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:04,179
avoid any ambiguity. It makes everyone's life a lot

1022
00:57:04,179 --> 00:57:08,460
easier. Um, there will also be, uh,

1023
00:57:08,469 --> 00:57:11,710
two. I believe it is webinars taking place one

1024
00:57:11,710 --> 00:57:14,320
from the US side, which I believe is tomorrow,

1025
00:57:14,329 --> 00:57:16,570
which will be focused around the U. S.

1026
00:57:16,570 --> 00:57:19,389
Participants. Um, and we'll make sure that some

1027
00:57:19,389 --> 00:57:22,449
information is available about that. But also, I

1028
00:57:22,449 --> 00:57:25,690
understand the UK will be holding an information session very

1029
00:57:25,690 --> 00:57:28,769
shortly as well. So we will make available the

1030
00:57:28,769 --> 00:57:31,139
details around those webinars so that you can join,

1031
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:33,250
should you wish to to see what's happening from their

1032
00:57:33,250 --> 00:57:36,190
perspectives as well. Um, we have an email

1033
00:57:36,190 --> 00:57:38,420
address for inquiries, as I mentioned, which is

1034
00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:43,090
global applications at C.S.I.R.O dot au. Uh, please

1035
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:45,929
send your questions into us. They're very happy to

1036
00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:49,610
to respond and engage. Um And so I very

1037
00:57:49,610 --> 00:57:51,289
much wanted to thank you all for taking the time

1038
00:57:51,289 --> 00:57:54,079
and wish you a great day or afternoon. So

1039
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:54,699
thanks, everyone.